Après qu’un indépendant n’ait qu’un seul accès, pourquoi pas, même si souvent il est aidé par son +1; mais pour les forfaits suivants, je ne comprends pas. Par ex. 1à5salariés = 1à5 utilisateurs quelque soit le plan… si on veut 5 CB la société doit passer en plan essentiel… je trouve la restriction étriquée… voire mesquine...
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Clairement, les offres changent trop souvent, et diminuent les services des abonnements les moins chers pour pousser à la conso. ;)
Bonjour à tous, Tout d’abord merci pour votre participation active sur le Forum, vos retours sont essentiels pour nous permettre d’améliorer continuellement notre service. Concernant les plans “Indépendants, en effet ce plan est limité à un seul utilisateur côté dirigeant, quelque soit le rôle. L’objectif de ce choix est de proposer une offre adaptée et simplifiée pour les indépendants, tout en respectant les spécificités de leur statut. Nous n’avons pas introduit de limitation pour les cabinets comptables et nous ne prévoyons pas d’en introduire. Concernant la date du 26 février, le but a été de laisser un délai raisonnable (4 semaines) et une date butoir aux entreprises pour faire le nécessaire. Pour les entreprises de 1 à 5 salariés en plan Basique, l’entreprise dispose bien de 5 licences utilisateurs. Nous avons adapté la mention du site afin que cela soit plus clair, à la lumière de vos retours. Encore une fois, nous tenons à vous remercier pour votre engagement.
Je vous remercie pour votre message. En effet, une erreur s'est glissée dans notre communication toutes nos excuses. Votre client souscrit bien à un plan Essentiel Pennylane. Le but initial de notre message était cependant bien de mettre l’accent sur la limitation effective, à compter du 26 Février, du nombre d'utilisateurs sur nos plans Individuels. Notre démarche vise donc simplement à clarifier et à faire respecter les conditions d’utilisation liées au plan Individuel.
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mon client est en plan essentiel…
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Notre entreprise a souscrit en direct à PL, nous avons créé un compte pour notre cabinet d’expertise. Suite à cette modification, lorsque j’ajoutais un nouvel utilisateur, le mail d’invitation pour se créer un compte était au nom de notre cabinet comptable et plus au nom de notre entreprise...
J’ai échangé avec le support qui n’a rien compris malgré la capture d’écran. J’ai demandé la suppression du cabinet comptable. Fin de l’histoire.
Notre entreprise a souscrit en direct à PL, nous avons créé un compte pour notre cabinet d’expertise. Suite à cette modification, lorsque j’ajoutais un nouvel utilisateur, le mail d’invitation pour se créer un compte était au nom de notre cabinet comptable et plus au nom de notre entreprise...
J’ai échangé avec le support qui n’a rien compris malgré la capture d’écran. J’ai demandé la suppression du cabinet comptable. Fin de l’histoire.
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Clément R. a écrit:
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Notre entreprise a souscrit en direct à PL, nous avons créé un compte pour notre cabinet d’expertise. Suite à cette modification, lorsque j’ajoutais un nouvel utilisateur, le mail d’invitation pour se créer un compte était au nom de notre cabinet comptable et plus au nom de notre entreprise...
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J’ai échangé avec le support qui n’a rien compris malgré la capture d’écran. J’ai demandé la suppression du cabinet comptable. Fin de l’histoire.
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Pas gentil pour l'expert, mais je comprends, nous on liquide les clients 😉
Notre entreprise a souscrit en direct à PL, nous avons créé un compte pour notre cabinet d’expertise. Suite à cette modification, lorsque j’ajoutais un nouvel utilisateur, le mail d’invitation pour se créer un compte était au nom de notre cabinet comptable et plus au nom de notre entreprise...
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J’ai échangé avec le support qui n’a rien compris malgré la capture d’écran. J’ai demandé la suppression du cabinet comptable. Fin de l’histoire.
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Pas gentil pour l'expert, mais je comprends, nous on liquide les clients 😉
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Je vous remercie pour votre message. En effet, une erreur s'est glissée dans notre communication toutes nos excuses. Votre client souscrit bien à un plan Essentiel Pennylane. Le but initial de notre message était cependant bien de mettre l’accent sur la limitation effective, à compter du 26 Février, du nombre d'utilisateurs sur nos plans Individuels. Notre démarche vise donc simplement à clarifier et à faire respecter les conditions d’utilisation liées au plan Individuel.
Je vous remercie pour votre message. En effet, une erreur s'est glissée dans notre communication toutes nos excuses. Votre client souscrit bien à un plan Essentiel Pennylane. Le but initial de notre message était cependant bien de mettre l’accent sur la limitation effective, à compter du 26 Février, du nombre d'utilisateurs sur nos plans Individuels. Notre démarche vise donc simplement à clarifier et à faire respecter les conditions d’utilisation liées au plan Individuel.
Merci pour votre compréhension !
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Oui la tarification dépend du nombre d'employés, vous pouvez consulter tous les tarifs avec le nombre de salariés sur notre site. 😊
Oui la tarification dépend du nombre d'employés, vous pouvez consulter tous les tarifs avec le nombre de salariés sur notre site. 😊
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Oui nombre de salariés, MAIS qui est différent du nombre d’utilisateurs depuis le début…
Donc peut-on clarifier la chose :
Un client en “indépendant” et quelque soit le plan choisi (Collaboratif, Basique, Essentiel, voire premium) à droit un seul utilisateur dirigeant/admin ou un seul utilisateur quelque soit le rôle ? Quid si de 1 à 5 salariés par ex. ?
Désolé j’ai l’impression que Pennylane joue sur les mots et est en train de retourner sa veste…
Indépendant :
Pour 1 à 5 salariés :
Donc en basique avec le tarif 1 à 5 salariés = que 2 utilisateurs !? si c’est ça c’est énorme !!! 🤔
Oui nombre de salariés, MAIS qui est différent du nombre d’utilisateurs depuis le début…
Donc peut-on clarifier la chose :
Un client en “indépendant” et quelque soit le plan choisi (Collaboratif, Basique, Essentiel, voire premium) à droit un seul utilisateur dirigeant/admin ou un seul utilisateur quelque soit le rôle ? Quid si de 1 à 5 salariés par ex. ?
Désolé j’ai l’impression que Pennylane joue sur les mots et est en train de retourner sa veste…
Indépendant :
Pour 1 à 5 salariés :
Donc en basique avec le tarif 1 à 5 salariés = que 2 utilisateurs !? si c’est ça c’est énorme !!! 🤔
Pour 6 à 15 salariés :
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Après qu’un indépendant n’ait qu’un seul accès, pourquoi pas, même si souvent il est aidé par son +1; mais pour les forfaits suivants, je ne comprends pas. Par ex. 1à5salariés = 1à5 utilisateurs quelque soit le plan… si on veut 5 CB la société doit passer en plan essentiel… je trouve la restriction étriquée… voire mesquine...
Après qu’un indépendant n’ait qu’un seul accès, pourquoi pas, même si souvent il est aidé par son +1; mais pour les forfaits suivants, je ne comprends pas. Par ex. 1à5salariés = 1à5 utilisateurs quelque soit le plan… si on veut 5 CB la société doit passer en plan essentiel… je trouve la restriction étriquée… voire mesquine...
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Y.Derue a écrit:
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Après qu’un indépendant n’ait qu’un seul accès, pourquoi pas, même si souvent il est aidé par son +1; mais pour les forfaits suivants, je ne comprends pas. Par ex. 1à5salariés = 1à5 utilisateurs quelque soit le plan… si on veut 5 CB la société doit passer en plan essentiel… je trouve la restriction étriquée… voire mesquine...
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Clairement, les offres changent trop souvent, et diminuent les services des abonnements les moins chers pour pousser à la conso. ;)
Après qu’un indépendant n’ait qu’un seul accès, pourquoi pas, même si souvent il est aidé par son +1; mais pour les forfaits suivants, je ne comprends pas. Par ex. 1à5salariés = 1à5 utilisateurs quelque soit le plan… si on veut 5 CB la société doit passer en plan essentiel… je trouve la restriction étriquée… voire mesquine...
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Clairement, les offres changent trop souvent, et diminuent les services des abonnements les moins chers pour pousser à la conso. ;)
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Je vous remercie pour votre message. En effet, une erreur s'est glissée dans notre communication toutes nos excuses. Votre client souscrit bien à un plan Essentiel Pennylane. Le but initial de notre message était cependant bien de mettre l’accent sur la limitation effective, à compter du 26 Février, du nombre d'utilisateurs sur nos plans Individuels. Notre démarche vise donc simplement à clarifier et à faire respecter les conditions d’utilisation liées au plan Individuel.
Je vous remercie pour votre message. En effet, une erreur s'est glissée dans notre communication toutes nos excuses. Votre client souscrit bien à un plan Essentiel Pennylane. Le but initial de notre message était cependant bien de mettre l’accent sur la limitation effective, à compter du 26 Février, du nombre d'utilisateurs sur nos plans Individuels. Notre démarche vise donc simplement à clarifier et à faire respecter les conditions d’utilisation liées au plan Individuel.
La restriction est seulement sur les plans “indépendant” ?
Pour un plan basique 1 à 5 salariés = illimité ?
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