Le FEC est structurellement conforme, je n’ai pas trop de doutes mais les dates de validation me semblent incohérentes...
\tEffectivement si l’écriture est modifiable c’est qu’elle n’est pas validée. Donc mettre en date de validation la date de l’écriture/facture n’est pas cohérent.
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Effectivement si l’écriture est modifiable c’est qu’elle n’est pas validée. Donc mettre en date de validation la date de l’écriture/facture n’est pas cohérent.
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j’ai alerté le support à ce sujet mais je n’ai aucun retour satisfaisant
Voilà 2 liasses que j’envoie, je test le FEC avec l’outil de l’administration et à chaque fois j’obtiens : FEC non conforme car colonne VALIDDATE vide.
Je précise que j’ai bien clôturé mon exercice, et effectivement quand j’ouvre le FEC avec excel, la colonne est vide !
Nous risquons un rejet de la compta, je ne sais pas si le support prend conscience du grave manquement à nos obligations en cas de contrôle.
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j’ai alerté le support à ce sujet mais je n’ai aucun retour satisfaisant
Voilà 2 liasses que j’envoie, je test le FEC avec l’outil de l’administration et à chaque fois j’obtiens : FEC non conforme car colonne VALIDDATE vide.
Je précise que j’ai bien clôturé mon exercice, et effectivement quand j’ouvre le FEC avec excel, la colonne est vide !
Nous risquons un rejet de la compta, je ne sais pas si le support prend conscience du grave manquement à nos obligations en cas de contrôle.
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“Merci de votre retour Vanessa.
Cette information a déjà été remontée à notre équipe produit mais je vais la remontée de nouveau.”
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“Merci de votre retour Vanessa.
Cette information a déjà été remontée à notre équipe produit mais je vais la remontée de nouveau.”
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J’ajoute que figer la compta dans Pennylane fige tout. Ce n’est vraiment pas pratique quand on veut faire des OD !
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